Song Speculation: Sabaton marches towards Rocksmith

Hello Rocksmith fans!

Today’s clue has been posted and solved, and it looks like we have a brand new artist for Rocksmith, and music games as a whole!

Let’s check it out!

This looks familiar… It’s a GIF!

So the password must be…

Operation was the password

MCMXLIV… 1944?

Study up on your military history

Could it be?

It is!

It’s a THREE pack of @Sabaton


Sabaton has appeared in other video games, but never in anything like Guitar Hero or Rock Band,,,

What follows is speculation

A power metal song about Charles XII, King of Sweden? I’m down

Da

Maybe something a bit more upbeat?

Last Stand of the Swiss Guard, are you learning something today?

Alright that’s the end of History class for today


Are you excited for Power Metal band @Sabaton to come Rocksmith? What songs are you hoping to see? Or is this one metal band you could go on not knowing about. Let us know!

UPDATE:

 

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Jbitt
Jbitt
February 10, 2019 1:17 pm

I’m beyond excited. Love theses guys! If you haven’t seen them in concert, you should! They just love to have fun, and their music has a great beat.

They are NOT Nazi lovers. Do some research before you spout garbage. All of their works are stories told about true battles/people/etc.

This is a much better VDay gift than some of the other crap I could imagine them putting out.

DDay for VDay! Do we not see the underlying meaning? 😉

JethroRamone
JethroRamone
February 8, 2019 2:07 pm

But I wanted War Pigs. (insert gif of something that represents pure disappointment)

Chris
Chris
February 8, 2019 4:51 pm
Reply to  JethroRamone

I would probably take the gi joe movie theme song over Swedish nazi lovers. Look at that video for ghost division that’s like paying homage to nazi panzer divisions. I’m never PC about anything but to idolize nazis is really wrong on so many levels

Chris
Chris
February 9, 2019 11:40 am
Reply to  Elliott

Slayer had a song about the evil of a nazi doctor and this song basically acknowledges how great the panzer division was that’s very different. Considering the history of Sweden in WWII and rise of neo nazis group there ,why would you make a song praising nazi troops. This is called historical blindness to evil and on top of it this band makes me want to listen to lady Gaga. I hope someone at Ubisoft at least realizes that bands that deceptively support nazi history should probably not be in the game

Teinashu
Teinashu
February 10, 2019 4:16 pm
Reply to  Chris

What are you on about?
Sabaton are no Nazi sympathizers.
Singing about historical facts no matter what perspective doesn’t make you agree with it.
The album “The Art of War” of which Ghost Division is the opening track, is all about military tactics. It’s all about the tactics used during warfare.
Ghost Division is about Erwin Rommel and the 7th Panzer Division. Rommel was a renowned strategist. During WW2 he was the one that came up with the modern Blitzkrieg tactic.
This is all coming from someone of Jewish ancestry.
Try to do some research before calling a band Nazi sympathizers.

Chris
Chris
February 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Reply to  Teinashu

I dont really believe they are nazi sympathizers but fools for making a video that clearly presents Rommel’s troops as heroes when in reality they participated in genocide and atrocities against civilians. Please tell me why the video was removed on youtube i guess I wasn’t the only one who thought this type of song with the video was a bad idea. If you are a band the smart thing is dont make songs and videos that make it look like you respect the Nazi army. Also you cant separate the evils of nazi regime from the army they were all complicit and allowed everything to happen. If I had to guess the personal views of this band in secret they would tell you that Rommel was a great man and maybe Hitler was misunderstood as well. The Swedes profited from the war and feel no shame in it at all.

Teinashu
Teinashu
February 10, 2019 6:12 pm
Reply to  Chris

The video that was posted here before was a fan made video, uploaded on his own channel and not at all endorsed by Sabaton.
The video was not at all deleted from YouTube and can still be found here.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsdawgd0azk

Furthermore. On a more recent album, Heroes (2014), they have a song called No Bullets Fly. It’s about how a German Luftwaffe pilot, Franz Stigler, escorted an disabled American bomber out of the fighting zone, because he felt that shooting them down would be akin to shooting down a man in a parachute. Something his commanding officer told him was not done.

In that story about a German pilot during WW2 would you say that Franz Stigler was not a hero because he was German?
As for your talk about Sweden’s stance in the war.
They were neutral. Companies sold iron ore to them, about 180 Swedes volunteered to fight for Germany. When the German’s decided to invade Norway they demanded use of Swedish phone lines, which they gave, they also listened in to all communications and send those to the allied forces. They trained Danish and Norwegian allied troops. Also they were a refuge for nearly all of Denmark’s 8000 Jewish population. and sheltered all Norwegian Jews who fled Norway during the occupation.
Businessmen and diplomats were actively spying for the allies in Berlin and other occupied territories.

But that’s all moot, because it’s in the past. It’s not the current working generations that were alive during that war, committed war crimes, dropped atomic bombs on 2 major cities, ect ect.
The only thing Sabaton does is tell about history, and history has a good and bad side. Both sides are deserving to be told.

If you actually think and do some research before responding. It will help you a lot.
Here are some sources for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_during_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
https://www.loudersound.com/features/blaze-of-glory-watch-out-world-sabaton-are-coming
With an interesting bit for you.
“Over the years, Sabaton have come under fire for their lyrics’ controversial subject matter – like the song The Final Solution, which deals with the Holocaust – and have even been accused of having questionable views themselves…

“Nobody would ask Stephen Spielberg if he was a Nazi because he made a movie about the Holocaust!” says Joakim with exasperation. “It’s storytelling. If someone has a problem with what we sing about, they should talk to the leaders who made this shit happen many years ago.”

“It’s totally understandable that you can misunderstand Sabaton if you hear a bit of a song and don’t know where it comes from,” Pär says calmly. “It was harder in the beginning. Our first album was denied release in Germany because it contained the word ‘Nazi’. They thought it was neo-Nazi propaganda! When we sent the lyrics, they said, ‘This is actually quite interesting’ and we were able to release it!” ”

On their own site they have historical facts about the songs with the lyrics. Might also be a good read for you.
https://www.sabaton.net/discography/ghost-division-lyrics/

ClassicWalkie
ClassicWalkie
February 10, 2019 9:19 pm
Reply to  Teinashu

I commend you Teinashu. You’ve kept this civil when it quite likely could have gotten well out of hand, and you’ve taught all of us a little about the band and the history they write their songs about while doing so.

Thank you.

Cjthemetalkid
Cjthemetalkid
February 8, 2019 11:03 am

Sabaton is someone I never requested but glady accept in the game. Looking forward to this one.

Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 9:40 pm

Oh and since this rocksmith, I’m guessing marleysanta knows this one, but here is the first r’n’r song. Also the first time distorted (fuzz, there is some debate, call it what you want) guitar had ever been recorded. Lotta, lotta history and stories to this song and players. But most importantly and briefly the amp fell off the top of the car (there is two versions involving the trunk) while unloading the gear. Of course was damaged, but someone insisted, bring it in and plug in. The player was upset because the cone was damaged but either Brenston or Sam philips liked it (I’ve heard/read both. Also it may or may not have had paper shoved into, sometimes attributed to why it sounds distorted) so it ended up on the recording. Obviously this gets us to our modern stonpboxes but in the interim there were people who would “carve” (I think there was another term for this as well, but please don’t do it) their speaker cone. A huge #1 hit covered many times and gave us all something we love.
Willie Kizart is on guitar m, Ike Turner on piano and the tenor sax player is the father Tina’s (turner) first child. Like I said a lot of history. This is Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats with the legendary Rocket 88. Awesome track.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nvyLJoLr5Zg

MarleySantana
MarleySantana
February 10, 2019 7:31 pm
Reply to  Oni

I’m be straight here. You actually kind of stumped me on this one. I’ve heard the story (btw, the account I heard involved the version you mentioned involving paper being stuffed in the cone. Have no idea which one is true though). As I said, I have heard this story but don’t recall the names involved. Other than Ike Turner. He has actually played on quite a few early hits. (and now that I think about it, I believe it is because of Ike’s involvement on Rocket 88 that heard this story)

I appreciate, no only the shout out but also bringing refreshing my memory on this. Love to hear music history and see where things come from. We’re quickly losing a lot of those early pioneers.

Oni
Oni
February 10, 2019 8:27 pm
Reply to  MarleySantana

I know. Losing the people and talent but the history and the stories is very sad to me. I’m greatful that I got to know some of the people when I did and could. 2 in particular. 1 is why I picked up playing and the other is really sort of the unknown and vitally important member of one of the great bands of all time, which we are even lucky enough to have songs from on here. I wish we had more though. I’ve really wanted to do a documentary on him because I really miss the guy but with the death of one the most important people to making that project and the most important musician of the band as well is something of a huge loss to the story as only that musician could’ve told it. Loss is life, but some are harder than others. People should just really know my friends story. It’s one of the great tales the public isn’t really aware of.

pjewell98
pjewell98
February 8, 2019 3:55 pm

Really this is what we are putting up for Valentines….. hmmm I’m all for Metal but really?????

Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 10:55 am

Hmm there’s about 90 Years worth of music I want in the game and a lot of metal that would be great. Ministry, Celtic Frost, fear factory, opeth, satyricon, machinehead, sepultura/soulfly, slipknot, killing joke (yes they cover a ton of genres), I could make this a long list. And the label we have this new band coming from has released stuff I own material from, however the confirmed track we are getting is somewhere around the level of scraping the barrel. I am not impressed. I see this a a major fail and a waste of all our limited rocksmith releases this week.

Telecaster
Telecaster
February 8, 2019 11:04 am
Reply to  Oni

The metal picks usually to lean to the corny side (although the Testament/Darkthrone/MA pack was good). I’d like to see some stuff more in the Baroness/Manilla Road/Pentagram/Slough Feg/The Sword zone.
You’ve got a lot of good suggestions there; I’d especially like CF, Opeth, and KJ.

Telecaster
Telecaster
February 8, 2019 11:06 am
Reply to  Telecaster

If they ever do a Darkthrone Pack, I’d like to hear some of the later thrashier stuff. Arctic Thunder was a ripper of an album.

Anybody ever listen to Tribulation? I’d like to see them too, and they seem to have some following.

Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 12:09 pm
Reply to  Telecaster

Yeah thrash made for a good subgenre of metal, usually a little heavier in tone than some of the other subgenres but good head banging bounce and groove, I’m amazed refuse/resist is the only track from sepultura we’ve got. To bad they broke up when they did. Right on the verge of being the next Metallica. But put them together with fear factory that’s pretty much how you get slipknot. Metal is such a guitar centric genre (and Uber die hard fan obsessed) for the most part it’s amazing that Ubi isnt just over loaded with requests for it. Based on the song selection available it’s clearly not the case (unless they ignore it).

LizardKing
LizardKing
February 8, 2019 11:38 am
Reply to  Telecaster

Have you guys listened to Coroner? They are back together and have some great guitar work. Would love to see a pack from them with songs from Grin and Mental Vortex.

Adem_H
Adem_H
February 8, 2019 4:27 pm
Reply to  LizardKing

Good luck trying to play that on guitar, Tommy T. Baron is utterly insane, even Yngwie Malmsteen would nod in approval at some of the stuff Coroner does (Arc-Lite springs immediately to mind)

Luke
Luke
February 9, 2019 1:28 pm

each to their own, but this is a slap in the face for metal fans waiting for something half serious

Mike
Mike
February 9, 2019 6:46 pm
Reply to  Luke

How is this not serious? You deserve a punch in the face for that?

Teinashu
Teinashu
February 10, 2019 4:23 pm
Reply to  Luke

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Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 11:53 am

I know things crop up here from time to time pointing out how not just bands but after years there are genres with no representation here. Just thought I’d post this since I know I’ve seen flamenco mentioned a few times. And although it would be cool if they did a good pack al a the backsmith pack that was cheap and had some fun interpretations in it. As a compromise for something that represents that but would appeal to a wider audience, I’ll post a couple videos. These guys have been around awhile their name is breed 77. I used to slip them in on my radio show occasionally and would always get people asking about them. They are a flamenco metal band from Gibraltar. So they have songs in English and Spanish. Did well in the charts in other country’s but I think they just got ignored here in the states. Doesn’t help that they never really played here. Just a couple event/festivals If I’m not mistaken. Something different is all.

A solid rocker -- World’s on Fire

Or a mellow one -- the River

In Spanish if you prefer -- el Rio

Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 11:56 am
Reply to  Oni

Arrg spell check. Fought with it a few times and thought it had given up but it found a better way to mess with me. Obviously I meant Bachsmith.

MarleySantana
MarleySantana
February 8, 2019 6:00 pm
Reply to  Oni

I”m one of the ones who mentioned flamenco. (A few others have too). Could go from Rodrigo y Gabriella to Francisco Tarrega or even some old Ana Gabriel. Yes there are still a few genres that haven’t been touched or just barely. They scratched the Jazz surface last year. While I’m a big Marley fan (really wish they’d have released some DLC around his birthday) there are other good reggae artists as well as some good artists from Hawai’i. Let’s name drop one of the most well known outside of the islands, Israel Kamakawiwo’ole. Surely we can find a way to mimic some ukulele in Rocksmith. Other untouched music includes gospel. (Staples Singers, Sister Rosetta Tharpe, Fred Hammond, John P. Kee). Or seriously get funky with your gospel with The Shakleford Singers or The Horace Family. (God Is All Over Me, and God Will Dry My Weeping Eyes respectively) I know I’m alone in wanting more representation in that area, but since we’re talking about under-representation, had to bring it up. I know a lot of folks are scared of that music or find it difficult to understand, but there is a lot of good stuff in gospel. If you look at Ubisoft’s Rocksmith page, the content is the highest in the Alternative, Metal, and Rock genres. I’m guessing that’s where the money is, which is why Ubisoft kept going back to the well so often over the years. While, financially, that may be a winning formula, there are still desirable genres with little to no representation. Perfect example. Look at how many of us have commented on wanting mo’ funk as opposed to moar metal. That’s not to diss the metal crowd but the numbers do show who’s getting greater representation and what areas are receiving little to no… Read more »

MarleySantana
MarleySantana
February 8, 2019 6:10 pm
Reply to  MarleySantana

Here’s another untouched one, from the islands. Something laid back.

Anuhea -- Forever Summer

MarleySantana
MarleySantana
February 8, 2019 6:18 pm
Reply to  MarleySantana

Minus her signature Gibson SG, here’s a little Sister Rosetta Tharpe to open your mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9bX5mzdihs

Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 9:12 pm
Reply to  MarleySantana

Oh I know that sister. I’d be fine with her appearing in the game but, and you know I want more blues (like 1,000 tracks worth, so I know it’s not happening) but I’ll see your sister and raise you a mama. A big Mama. Thornton that is. Ps Elvis didn’t write that song for those who don’t know.

MarleySantana
MarleySantana
February 10, 2019 7:59 pm
Reply to  Oni

Ah, Oni you dirty dawg. Well played sir. I love this song. (actually haven’t heard her do this with harmonica) I’m use to the version from the compilation Time-Life Treasury of the Blues.

While this may not equal Big Mama, I have to toss out another queen. As I like my blues with some stank on it, I offer up another requested song, Ms. Koko Taylor and Wang Dang Doodle. (actually off the same cd)

Oni
Oni
February 10, 2019 8:31 pm
Reply to  MarleySantana

Ironically I originally thought of posting that track (Chester Burnett’s version is great to, That’s Holwin’ Wolf folks if you didn’t know) but to be able to play with the whole sister/mother thing was to tempting. There’s a lot of good stuff that one day we may just get.

Oni
Oni
February 8, 2019 10:25 pm
Reply to  MarleySantana

I’ll kick myself later but my top 3 jazz picks would be Django Reinhardt, largely considered the greatest jazz guitarist of all time. Hell of a life story and an amazing musician. However might be best thought by people here because their would have never been Black Sabbath without him. Django’s story is why Iommi didn’t give up guitar after the accident. Charlie Christian and the biggest longshot here Charles Mingus.

Btw since you mentioned Fred, I’m momentarily jumping back to blues to mention I’d love some John Hammond up in here.

And although there are things funk influenced coming to mind at the moment it certainly would be nice to have some Larry Graham in the selection but for the middle ground what we really don’t have enough for me is more of anything with James Jamerson. If not the best bass player of all time, by far and indisputably the most influential bass player ever (never said he had to be your favorite).

MarleySantana
MarleySantana
February 10, 2019 8:13 pm
Reply to  Oni

Good call on Jamerson. Also wondering how we have nothing highlighting Larry Graham. I often wonder if Ubisoft might put together a package deal the way we got the Rolling Stones and Chuck Berry so close together. Prince often cites Larry Graham as a major influence. There are even some videos on YouTube of them playing together.

To focus specifically on Larry, here’s a video of him playing the bass like as if it were a “lead” yes, “lead” percussion instrument. Yeah, it’s about time for this as well.

Oni
Oni
February 11, 2019 12:36 am
Reply to  MarleySantana

Oh I’d love make a joke about les claypool should’ve known better then to do a set in blackface but someone is totally going to take it wrong one way or another. This is one of the guys les got it from folks. Larry has talent, it would be cool if he would make music again, his own thing or with some fun people. I think he does some session stuff here and there and a few shows but for him to come out with some original material would be nice. Jamerson is a trip. First of all even if it wasn’t obvious, he owned every track I can think of him playing. But he could play something some smooth. So in the groove. Completely is what moves the song and yet might sound louder me the simplest part in the song. Until you try and play it. Then your brain might break. It’s like a magic trick and he could stand out if he wanted to. Hell for more than a decade when a recording needed a bass player and someone said I know a guy. The responses was, is he as good as Jamerson? No but he’s close. Ok then. Jamerson was the standard. But he mastered in misdirection. That’s why people still not only listen to those songs, not that there isn’t other worthy stuff on them, but he lofted them up. But musician still point to him so much because of what and how he did it. I remember a guy saying, I know everyone now has heard a 5 string bass but I don’t think I ever heard anything go lower than Jamerson (with a 4 string folks) and it was all in how he played it and picked and emphasized the notes. Sure some… Read more »

Oni
Oni
February 11, 2019 12:40 am
Reply to  Oni

Oh goody my spell check rewrote a whole section and turned it jibberish. I really hate that.